Answer: Virtually all electric space heaters at Amazon do the same heating job. The EdenPure heater uses 1500 Watts. I am not so egotistical to refuse to admit that I was taken and that Edenpure sells grossly overpriced junk. PUT A THRMOSTAT IN EACH LARGE ROOM IN YOUR HOUSE THEN INSTALL A SWITCHER TO CONTROL EACH THERMOSTAT IT CUT MY BILL IN HALF. I am lucky to have a couple of working ones, they do help, but after reading all the electric experts and cost of cheaper 1500w heaters, I must sadly say, I have been scamed. The square feet/cubic feet issue comes from EdenPURE ads from a few years ago when I wrote the original article. This article will examine the claims made by EdenPUREs manufacturer and expose their lies. Nice flat spot for debris. (FYI: the same goes for room air conditioners.). Especially true if the ductwork is uninsulated or leaks air. I am glad you enjoy your EdenPURE heater. Complain all you want the heater works well. It does heat evenly. We have the 1000, and the 1000XL, the are the first ones. I tune mine up every year with the drop of oil and a little compressed air. The problem lays, as always, in Sales and Marketing (or Greed and Misleading), that makes EdenPure a hype from the cost vs.value point of view. Make sure that your home is well insulated and consider using a radiant barrier. He's doing this because he thinks its a good product and it is if used in the right situation. One of the most important features and benefits of the Eden Pure vs one of the $50 that may heat the same space I would not trust most of those $50 heaters or anything that can be turned over easily and I certainly would never leave my home with one of those heaters on. In looking into getting an fared heater, I did a lot of research. I will not buy an Eden Pure until they correct the post sale issues shown here. According to these naysaying braniacs her hairdryer should put out more heat since they claim all heat sources are 100% efficient, etc. As well as my cats! cold in massachusetts on January 12, 2011: where can you run a 1500 watt heater all night for $0.23? In some situations yes but in some no. It is the wrong measurement for electric heat. I just received the flyer in my mail box regarding the Eden Pure Heater and am glad that I researched this on your website. I see the infomercial all over DirecTV. The filter is as overpriced and useless as the heater. Like EdenPure it uses the same technology, 'infrared quartz tube + PTC'.this is what gives the heaters the longevity. Stay warm everyone!! Another interesting point that only Delbert seemed to make is--- how much maintenance is required? Edenpure heaters are CRAP. I also agree with your opinion on products sold by celebrities. at a fraction of the cost,with the same heat output a far fewer failure rates. Have i used them. :). Want a great laugh? when you look at the other sales websites they state in stock but edenpures states out of stock so they have to make it to sell it. Ok Bob Yila lets stand behind your product and give me my money back now Do a cost comparison yourself. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on October 31, 2011: John, it should remind you of every politician. In other words a fan force heater will heat a space faster and then turn off faster while a pure convection heater will take much longer. My complaints is that I place my order 4 weeks ago still no shipment (endnpure.com states 5 to 10 dyas) & cust service does not respond to email and closed half the time. the other heater 1 year old the heater tube burned out' I saved $200.00 in heating bills , but spent 300.00 more on electricity. I have two Eden Pures in my home and they really work. Heat pump water heaters (HPWHs) operate in an entirely different way. Issues of safety, durability, and return on investment must be considered before purchasing one of the most expensive portable infrared heaters on the market. Edin Pure has more competition so their price should be competitive if they want to stay competitive. do EVERYTHING that these $400 dollar SNAKE OIL heaters do!! EdenPure makes all these claims about saving money, but in their ad they say their $197 Personal heater will heat a room of 300 sq. FACT: Of course it will. Heat from any 1500 watt electric heater will cost you $35.60 for 1 million btus of heat if you are paying 12 cents a KWH. Depending on how long you allow your electric heater to run during the colder winter months, you could see an increase in your electricity usage, along with a higher electricity bill. It claims 1000 s f for the gen 4 and it will do that just as well as most heaters. My best friend bought two, I told her not to do it. Gas burners are a hazard in a barn with hay even if only in a side utility room. Delivery & Pickup Options - 214 reviews of Bill's Burgers, Wings & Things "New venture by the owners of the Maxican Restaurant here in Burnet. Your heating in the northern regions will typically average somewhere around $500/month. Bob Vila was dropped by Sears for problems with post job problems and costs associated. In response to my last post, I can afford a 300.00 loss due to this scam, but what about the next person. They are PAID to endorse these products. In Feb of 08 I had to order replacement bulbs, they cost $59.00 for the 1000. They are thu the wall units that look like AC units they are about 12k to 15k btu each.A heat pump is about 1 to 3 energy gain $1 in you get $3 out.Dont be fooled by the snake oil salesman. Also the actual cost for Endenpure gen 4 is $397 (2010 cost) refurbished 374.00 so there are models that are returned for a savings $23.00. Cubic Feet/Minute is the best measure. Its only ment to heat up a small area with a person in it. To enhance the gameday experience in the Jim Kelly, Van Miller and Paul Maguire Clubs, a radiant heating system was installed and ready for use during the chilly games of the 2013 season. Also, dont buy Cub Cadet. [17] There are none so blind as those who will not see. The memos, allegedly written in 1972 and 1973, were obtained by CBS News producer Mary Mapes and freelance journalist Michael Smith, from Lt. Col. Bill Burkett, a former US Army National Guard officer. The same method can be used in the walls, ceiling, and floor of a mobile home to regulate its temperature. Question: What is the best portable heater? Thank you guys for the info, I was just about to order an Eden Pure, uffff going to walmart to buy a Lasko or anything else like it. to produce those BTUs. I am glad i took the time to read it and all the interesting and informative comments. The documents, purported to have been typed in the early 1970s, were likely produced many years later with a computer using Microsoft Word on default settings. Most water heaters include a label listing the annual. I unpacked this one and turned it on and the fan barely would run. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. If 1500W goes in, 5118 BTU comes out. Burkett's Heating & Cooling is a premier choice for professional HVAC services in Piqua and Sidney, OH, and surrounding areas. Here's examples of how those would work: 1) Say your furnace has a vent that blows all of the warm air straight outside every time the furnace kicks on giving no warmth to the house. It does nor really matter what type of heat source is used: gas, electric, oil, wood, solar, wind etc. I was about to order an eden pure online when I saw this site and decided to read consumer comments first. You can put a sheet of copper in front of your heater and buffer the heat with an electric heater. After reading all the negative reviews posted about the Eden Pure,I called back to cancel my order. Updating my comments on the EdenPure. Needless to say, i WILL NOT be buying any expensive heating units with misleading claims of their efficiency and lower monthly savings. I was going to buy an edenpure because I am a senior citizen and in winter my light bill is out of sight but reading all the negative comments, NO THANKS! Nothing is 100% efficient. Have tried it a few times since after unplugging it and the same thing happens, it will run for just a couple of minutes and it dies. Price? About 8 years ago, I got an estimate for ZONE HEATING for my home including the garage. Out of stock at this time though. Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. Options depend on your purchase amount, and a down payment may be required. Space heaters cost about 20 cents per hour to operate, give or take, which is a whole lot cheaper than central heat for a home of almost any size. If not there could be an additional charge etc,. No more, no less. I'm very disapointed and feel very stupid that I did not google this until now. [8], When asked about Burkett's role in the controversy, David Van Os, Burkett's lawyer, responded with the hypothesis that someone may have reconstructed documents that they believed existed in 1972 or 1973.[9]. The first heater I got didn't run long before one of the elements went out. A friend of mine purchased 2 after experiencing my heater. Call your agent or insurance company if you have any questions. It was fantastic and a threw a lot more heat than the electric oil radiator type. Last night it was 24 degrees outside, and inside my living area may have been 60 in the middle of the night, but with daylight, the temp in my living area was 64. I used to think Alex Trebec was an honorable man, but after seeing him and others like him offer this insurance that IS a SCAM for seniors, I have no respect for him. To calculate an approximate heater size for an outdoor pool, follow these steps: Determine your desired pool temperature. The EdenPURE heater is several times as expensive as other infrared electric heaters. How long do the bulbs last, how much do they cost, and does a technician have to do the work? Looked first at a $14.99 ceramic heater that uses 1500 watts and is rated at just over 5000 btu's. That's right. The clue is in the word personal . I bought one several years ago and saved like at least 100. on my first electric bill. Its safer than most to. When I pulled the heater out this winter nothing happened. Suarez Manufacturing Industries / Pinnacle Systems, did no component life testing at all during the Edenpure US-1000 / Gen4 product development. An electric heater is an electrical device that converts an electric current into heat. If you can't understand that then you must be stupid. Everybody is forsale for a price Even BOB VILLA. they sent me a RFH one it can to me in pieces they back cover was broken in several pieces. A company of integrity that believes all the implications of their own commercial to be true would have no problem warranteeing for one year and paying return costs for the "so few that would come back. There is no free lunch; you can't get more energy than the source contains. They have two 1000 watt and 1500 watt settings and will heat 200 sq feet, but from what I read, the 1500 watt setting is using more electricity. Because heating a wire is less efficient to heating a infared light you can't do a comparison. Many people who complain about heat pump performance (it blows cold air, it's expensive to operate, etc.) You still need them. I just received an ad in the mail for a Comfort Furnace, Infrared Heater, that has all the same claims as the Eden Pure and selling for $329.00 (sale price) and a 3 yr warranty. You are just cutting costs by heating a smaller areasomething you could have done without a $400 space heater. Would i buy this. 3) Infrared doesn't just heat air molecules, it also heats water molecules (humidity) as it passes through an infrared heat exchanger. The Air King 8132 1500 watt ceramic space heater covers areas up to 150 square feet. CLAIM: [Other heaters with] cheap ceramic plates reduce humidity. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on February 19, 2019: This article was published a few years back when EdenPURE advertised their heaters at $400. Actual energy savings from high efficiency water heaters depend on family size, heater location, and the size and placement of water pipes. For the guy who said to close off the rooms and the vents in those rooms, don't you know that can damage your central unit. I called them again and realizing that these things must be nothing but junk I told them that I just wanted a refund. The heater might be graet but at this time I don't want to take that chance just incase it is not what BOB VILA claims to be ture. I will never buy another one and will tell others not to, they are well overrated. My electric bill sky rocketed, can't think of anything positive where Edenpure heaters are concerned. Cold in Northern Alberta on February 25, 2011: If you want negative comments about this heater , a simple Google search will fulfill your needs. Do not take my word for it call yourself 1-800-294-0280 and see if you can get through. Installing a water heater replacement costs between $845 and $1,698, or an average of $1,271, for a tank-based unit and labor. I bet they will not stand behind the heater because you cannot get anyone to answer the phone and they just want you to give up. Less expensive models one have tubes. CLAIM: With the EdenPure the temperature will not vary in any part of the room. A 1500-watt heater will produce at most 5000 BTUs. Now, that may seem cold to some of you, but no other heater identical to this one is going to do any better and if they are not this safe, you would have to have your central heat on. And yes the personal heater that heats 50 s f is only the size Of a prison cell. Buyer beware ! Again, the EdenPure AND ANY HEATER using 1500 watts is going to cost too much to use as your only heat. Although electric heaters do heat a room, there are more energy efficient ways of doing that. Patents by Inventor Bill Burkett. Lowering your home's thermostat (s) and using your main heating system less in tandem with a space heatercalled zone heating will cut your utility bill. There not trying to rip you off or scam you. I put up with very high bills until last year from what is no more than a heater that was supposed to be a heat pump, meaning it runs on heat strips. You also only heat one room so it costs over $2 per room at an 8 hour run. The person who stated the baseboard is just as efficient may be right about it being as efficient, but only in the sense that it heats the room. They basically cut our heating bills in half and keep us nice and warm during the cold Pennsylvania winter nights. Here is a great explanation of what you should look for (that and a 'wide mouth'): http://www.biophysicscenter.com/infrared-heaters.h Hope this helps!! The key to these are you heat the rooms you are living in during the day so you use your furnace less. Determine the average temperature for the coldest month of pool use. Actually, when the Eden uses that copper coil to absorb the heat they're actually deceasing the efficiency of the heater. In that case the EdenPure can save you money over natural gas. If you read it carefully, it never really claims that the Eden Pure heater is a miraculous heat source. Which means you get 100% of what it cost you. FACT: Nonsense. I have gas heat but use this at night to warm my bedroom, rather than raise the thermostat to heat the whole house. No complaints at all. Asked store manager about the eden pure heater and when we looked online, the same 1500 watt unit is rated at the same 5000+ btu's. The family film tells the story of Bobby Burkett (Huffman), the quarterback for Louisville St. Thomas Aquinas, a small catholic high school. Still use the Edin pure in our basement vs, electric baseboard and it works fine. Yes, you can buy heaters for less, but do you trust leaving them on during the night or when away from home. Sorry about the math confusion, but I really did mean cubic feet, not square feet. For your reference, I use Lasko heaters in my home and office. He admitted to lying to CBS about the origin of the memos when he said he got them from fellow guardsman George Conn,[6] then claiming that he received the Killian documents from a woman calling herself "Lucy Ramirez" who has never been identified. Whether you like the article or not - the simple fact is any cost savings you are seeing by using an Eden Pure heater is due to the use of "zone heating" I.e. So, for this is is great. You don't need an EdenPURE product to close vents around your home, not in use. Bob Vila gave two types of scenarios. Thank you so much! I am sold on the Eden Pure, but I will have to say I did see one just before seeing this page that is described much in the same way as the Eden Pure Gen4 but is marked down to $219. Because an electric furnace needs to generate heat, it uses far more electricity than an air conditioning unit as it works to keep your home warm. It's clear that you have not only taken the bait, but swallowed the hook. My Gen 4 burned out in 2 years, Eden pure company claims they will send me new quartz heating tubes but I want Bob Villa here to fix it!!!! Even your oil or gas-fired furnace does not reduce oxygen because the combustion gasses that go up the chimney are replaced by air infiltration. A btu IS a btu, weather you use oil, wood, propane, electricity, gasoline, kerosene, camel dung, or a candle to make the heat. Some of the comments by others state they have a comfortable house because the bought the heaters and they were 'comfortable'. I am very comfortable with leaving the Eden Pure on at night and while I am away so when I return, the house is not cold, plus I have the assurance that my pets are not going to be burned or turn over a smaller, lighter heater burning them and possibly burning the house down. A $50.00 Lasko has the exact same efficiency as its EP $450.00 counterpart. Room Air Conditioner. The machine shot out sparks. It just says if you use an Eden Pure heater to do "zone heating"I you will save money. This Ken guy below me is an idiot and so are all those so called engineers that claim you get the same heat from any 1500 watt heater. Water Heater Installation Cost. It will cost more. Im just another sucker. Have now started a dispute claim with my credit card company. Standing by it, it doesn't really seem like it is doing much work, but, judging from our reduced power bills, it is doing exactly what these units are claimed to do. ft house that you keep at 70 degrees during the winter. Second, it does not have any fan that blows hot air into your room, along with all dust and mites that you inhale, getting allergies and respiratory problems. This actually makes their heater less efficient. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Would i recommend them? It is an older model. That claim of a 20,000 bulb life in an Edenpure heater is completely false. Kinko's", "CBS Says It Can't Vouch for Bush Documents", "THE 2004 CAMPAIGN: MILITARY SERVICE; An Ex-Officer Now Believes Guard Memo Isn't Genuine", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bill_Burkett&oldid=1005909946, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 10 February 2021, at 01:33. So does anything else that uses 1500W of electricity, such as a $15 bathroom heater or a 1500W blow hair dryer. 2) a btu, Also, for anyone who's interested, the fans in the small forced air heaters typically fail after about two years. Unh uh !! turning you main source of heat down for the whole house and just warming up the areas you are in with the Eden Pure heater. So, I turned on the EdenPure, had it on high, which I didn't need to do, and my upstairs is varying from a toasty 70 degrees to 67 at the farthest areas from the EdenPure. Out performs? THIS is the reason the heating companies have zone heating. And, BTW, author of this site, it is SQUARE FEET, not CUBIC as you stated. I'm absolutely thrilled with my unit. I was going to purchase another EdenPure this year for the downstairs, but after seeing the .25 per hour and calculating the cost, that will not save money. Always open. I cannot tell you if the heater is worth it or not, because they will not answer the phone once you place an order. U CANT HEAT HOT WATER DUH! Otherwise, save yourself about $400 and pick one up from Lowe's. Outputs range from 75,000 Btu to 450,000 Btu. Look at your furnace's btu rating. I used to like him on this old house , but like many of the over the hill broke celebs. Edenpure tried to be disingenuously suggestive. See who you know. CLAIM: With other heating sources, you'll notice you get sleepy because they are burning up oxygen. All EdenPURE does is dress it up and jack the price to the stratosphere. It has exactly the same power of 1000 to 2000 Watts as everything else including EdenPure. EdenPURE sells their heaters all day long on their website for $247 plus free shipping so where you got your $400 figure is a mystery. It didn't work so i sent it back to BIO RESEARCH in ohio. Zone heat is just that whether you use a single zone heater or have your central system set up that way. Even a child knows that hot air rises. This is the second blog I have complained on. Larger units typically cost more, and other features and upgrades may drive the price up to . The importance of this is any space heater will do that. I to have an Edenpure system that I purchased for my basement. Look at memy trusty Lasso heater is only $25 and can easily heat a small room. As the . A space heater with a linear source of infrared radiant energy in heat exchange relationship with a heat exchanger formed of copper or aluminum material. If you sheeple need to believe otherwise, so be it. Ads for EdenPURE portable infrared heaters promise energy savings of up to 50 percent. 1) If a person commenting on this site is in the HVAC business they are automatically biased against EdenPURE because it competes with their services. I was directed to 3 different 800 customer service numbers. Nothing wrong with EdenPure technology, it is credible, and the heater is as good as any other similar purpose heater (I only have hard time accepting its "ancient" design). You just have to decide if the features of the Eden Pure are worth the extra cost over a less expensive space heater. Ive been heating the entire house with 3 Edenpure heaters (only turn on one downstairs when Im there). This means it produces 5118 BTU of heat. State notices to consumers [affirm.com/licenses].
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