I had no idea that white oak looks different when grown in one geographical area versus another. It did not affect the color. The people there were very patient with us and very helpful. Held off on final coat until project finished.. which will be done in a few days. The cost of the floors is such a big expenditure that I didnt even ask the installer if or how much he was charging me for the samples I chalked it up to the overall cost of the floors. will slightly darken the floors and sort of intensify the variation (the sample boards almost looked wet to me). We wanted to end up with a floor that looked as close to our raw wood as possible but had lots of protection. That's not what was happening. I am in the same predicament and not wanting to settle for maple! (It looks a little pink on my IPad - its not in real life. Here Bona Natural is on the left in front of fireplace and Nordic is on the right surrounded by sanded white oak. And finally, a 'fit' *might include costs.but it should be much lower on the list than you might think. Bona If youre really interested, Ill call the installer Brazilian Floors and see if he still has the info. (I didnt think about this before adding the bookcases.) Rift white oak lowers and white uppers. My builder said hed work with them even though he never had before and I had several conversations with them. Thank you for asking. Ours is from Norway. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. Yes. We got our hardwood lumber from a lumber mill in Berryville, VA. Finally, I coated half of my sample with their Fortico Satin and I could not see the poly at all. @widdy23 Seems like everything is taking longer than expected. @CEM TOSA It took me forever to decide on countertops. Which means something is sitting on, grinding down, pressing into or just plain 'sitting on' your floors every second of every day. He installed the floors beautifully, but installed red oak even though I showed him a sample of pre-finished white stained white oak. The more coats you apply, the lighter it becomes. First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. Our contractor informed me that it is significantly more expensive, $2500 more expensive. white oak hardwood flooring. So I suppose its even better than 3 coats in 3 days as I originally thought given your advice. His maternal grandfather, Justice Thomas Smith, had been for many years a prominent lawyer and a distinguished judge in Philadelphia, and his maternal great-uncle, the Rev. Photos would be helpful. It should have had one extra coat of protectant. I've tested their smoke reactive and their Baro reactive Both can be adjusted with water or their "clear" so that you can get varying tones. Also, how many coats of sealer did you use? Based on the research I've done, Nordic Seal has a tendency to show white streaks on the floor. There is no haze and the floors look very pretty, natural in color with a light sheen. Make sure you use a PROFESSIONAL who is TRAINED in water based applications. I found a highly recommended company that has experience with placing wood floors in the most humid environments Plenty of high-end homes have wood floors here so someone has to do it & do it well- just find "that" guy! Just seemed so right. The floors are super dusty in this photo as the soffits were just removed. NordicSealis an easy to use water-based sealer from Bonawhich you can use it to achieve this popular whitewashed look. I'm sorry but this finish is not "salvageable". (followed by Traffic HD). think it turned out well. Ill post more photos- the site only lets me post one at a time. Thank you to all of the experts for weighing in. It still should not come off. It was not supportive or helpful. Bona Natural Seal I lost confidence in my floor guy - I think he wasn't wiping the stain off but letting it dry on resulting in washed paint look. Thanks so much! ?-- and liked playing around with it. I worry that two coats might look too light, but with one coat, I still see some yellow coming through (my sample has the Traffic HD matte though, not satin). This photo Nordic is on the top and Natural is on the bottom. Quartzite gets a bad name due to companies mislabeling marbles, dolomites and sandstone. @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. For a house your size and a $50k budget. They should be able to get the job done for you. I absolutely love the floors. In Honor Of Design Absolutely love the matte finish. Cant decide! If you like to see a shiny floor RIGHT AFTER you clean the floor (because it makes you feel like you've accomplished something) then you are what I refer to as a 'clean-shiny' person. Its small enough, you should be able to manage it. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. Have experienced installers figured out how to use the Nordic in open floor plan homes? Floors look VERY good! Now green is having a moment in the kitchen, These design moves will add even more to white kitchen cabinets appeal, Find out the most popular countertop, flooring, cabinet, backsplash and paint picks among homeowners who are renovating, Neutrals still dominate cabinet color. Will there be less haze if we use a satin finish? Houzz utilise des cookies et d'autres technologies de suivi similaires pour personnaliser mon exprience utilisateur, me proposer du contenu pertinent et amliorer ses produits et services. Windows for a 1920's Spanish style home in SoCali. Bona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. The "real" professional-grade products view DuraSeal/Minwax (owned by the same company) to be 'DIY' level products. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. We learned a lot from seeing the color and pattern differences between the American white oak and Norwegian white oak (and white oak from other areas). I have it in my home. A friend of mine had her red oak floors sanded and bleached to get the pink out and then sealed them. @Hughey do you know what process for bleaching? If you look at my photos above, the wood sample with one coat of Bona Natural sealer and one coat of Matte Traffic HD looked nice too but looked horrible with one coat of Natural and 3 coats of satin Traffic HD. If you like the look of your raw white oak floors then NaturalSeal is your best bet. They do their own fuming there I found it interesting to learn about that too. Titan and Fortico can go on top of the waxes and reactives. (The Classic has less of a haze.) @Ashley I just want to lay down on my floors and HUG them!! We were going after the Studio McGee house look attached. I also read you dont want to go too thin. Good luck on your project!! And using Bona Traffic HD is a MASSIVE upgrade over Mega. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. That means you relate clean with shiny. Give it a light sanding after it dries with 220 or 240 grit sandpaper. NaturalSeal adds the LEAST amount of 'colour' (either white or yellowdoesn't matter) of all the sealants in the Bona line up. Applying Bona NordicSeal to Your Hardwood Floors I cannot find any locally. We will be going with something close to that. I do love the natural color. If so what brand and color was used? The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. Just about the time I had to FINALLY make a decision (about a year later than when I started due to the architects goof ups and COVID shut downs), the Corian fabricator sent me a couple 4x4 samples of Glacier White. Bona After reading on the website about this particular water-based finish, I learned that while it might dry clear, it leaves an amber color tone--just what I did not want. Dark floors are pretty popular with clients but as you mention usually going with white or painted cabinets. How to protect the wood enough for kitchen cabinet use but 1. I am posting some final outcome pictures in different rooms and lighting. and I wish we had another layer of protection. There are MUCH better systems out there - especially in the water based finishes. I love your base molding, where do you buy that from? Training costs money. I would have loved to find a simpler, cheaper, regular old stain, but they just don't give me the same look I'm trying to achieve. It must be sanded down and done again. The builder already ordered the wood. Traditionally you will ask for QUOTES and then VIEW their work (photos or in person if they have clients who offer their home as a 'show piece' = very rare) and THEN you hire the person who as the best "fit" for your needs. Imagine if that would have been quartz? Did you put your deposit down on a charge card? They either look to white/milkey or they are orangish yellow. Maybe instead of wanting it natural, I really wanted it lighter rather than a medium to darker stain. The reactive simply pulls the tannins. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. Red and white oak floors are increasing in popularity. HELP!!! After sanding I loved the natural look of the wood including the knots and imperfections. I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. Ryan Danielson and Angela Watkins did either of you find a solution to achieve the natural white oak finish you were looking for? I think we found a good match. I adore the light color, but every little water spot shows, or a splash of spilled coffee. Thank you for suggesting Bona Mega One. Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? They held up to move in with no major scratches. Take the time to try all of the sample combinations. New This Week: 3 Knockout Kitchens With Natural Wood Cabinets, Trending Now: 11 Popular Kitchens That Rock Not-White Cabinets, New This Week: 3 Welcoming White-Cabinet Kitchens, New This Week: 6 Stylish Not-White Kitchen Cabinet Colors, 4 Kitchens With White Cabinets and a Wood Island. She lucked out and her floors look pretty good. I was asked two separate questions. Directly before me was one of the mirrors I have mentioned, in which I saw reflected the tall shape of my friend, Mr. Jennings, leaning over my shoulder, and reading the page at which I was A history of Savannah and South Georgia : volume II I still hope to get my dream kitchen. See the photo below if you open the photo you will see the raw wood. Thank you. I have my fingers crossed that I wont see white stripes when all the protective paper is pulled up. Of course, none of this is more than 3 foot square sampleand not my kitchen floor, but we are hopeful that we have an answer. If you are paying for professional grade products, just make sure you are GETTING professional grade products. And you want to have 3 coats total. So it comes in at 1025 or 1.25 X 820 sf (amount of flooring ordered with sufficient for waste/scrap. @HU-6868130 your herringbone looks amazing! The correct answer should be "nothing at all". I DEFINITELY reccomend reading reviews for fabricators before choosing who you'll use . @Mary Elizabeth I think we have narrowed it down to Ciranova's products..after testing theirs, Rubio Monocoat and several Pallman's waxes, plus a number of normal stains. Yeah, thats what I am realizing. Color we like the Bona Nordic best and the Bona Natural second, but they both have a muddy haze when you see them in real life. Get ready for a LONG story! In this angle Nordic is on the right and Natural is on the left. p.s. so you did one coat of natural and two coats of HD? That's how building law works. The 'big boys' of the finishing industry are 2-3 times more expensive than DuraSeal (and for good reason) which means the professionals will make less money. Once you and your professional shake hands and write a contract that's when they come in and start the job. I waxed it out. Ryan - where did you purchase your Milesi? Im happy with the color. Yep. This is not designed to be the tough outer layer I didn't choose the Nordic because I thought the white pigment made it look unnatural. Mega is the 'cheap' level of the Bona line-up. It won't be cheap but it will be fast. 1,303 views Oct 22, 2020 We originally sanded this floor almost 20 years ago, this time the customer wanted a much lighter color. Different painters proposing different solutions to calcimine ceiling. We got select I think its 3/4 thick and 7 wide. Still a good quality product line, just not the best. My stomach-- which had been in a knot for a year due to indecision relaxed. YesBona Traffic HD is MUCH more expensive than over-the-counter stuff. Or Bona Traffic + their stain line. I've read mixed reviews of the Loba one last thing, Is your parquet the kind with slats/"fingers"? Carly, we are trying to decide between Bona Classic Seal or Natural Seal? For the finish, use a water-based product, not an oil-based product which can yellow from sun exposure over time. I knew this was IT. That 'fit' can include their ability to communicate. If ending up with the typical honey oak is my only choice, then I'd rather just get painted maple/mdfwhich isn't what I want! I bought a cleaner made for the finish (similar to m quartz) and touch up is easy if needed. You have NOT hired installer yet! It was applied Saturday morning.". There are MANY people who do NOT know they are 'clean-shiny' people until they purchase matte floors. WebSome 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. I like it a lot no visible seam at the back of the countertop). It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. @ Moran.now I see where this has come up. Most of the articles I read suggested that 3 protective coats is the way to go. Heres a photo of our family room. I think of a coat of sealant as 1/2 a coat of finish. Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? Thank you. Not the best lighting. Thank you! I always keep at least 100 bundles of stone in stock that I personally hand pick so I purchase thousands of slabs a year. Then the installer goes over it a second time causing lap marks or white lines. Here are some of my samples. Can you share the color? Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. We are going with Ciranova "smoke" Unico oil--a one coat product--- which is very similar to Rubio's Smoke 5%, but it can be covered with Ciranova's Fortico (supposedly equal to Bona Traffic). WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. It didnt seem to show the variations in the wood, light to dark, etc, grain, etc. If you don't like the look of "honey oak" then don't use oil based finishes. I read ClassicSeal is a cheaper sealer in the Bona lineup? I think I would have done semi-gloss as a base and the matte as a final top coat or maybe satin as a top coat. If you search my other discussions on this site, youll see how I flip-flopped so many times Corian, stainless, Neolith, D e k t o n, Quartz, wood (for the island top) and finally back to Corian. I wish we did three coats of the Traffic HD as he have a ton of traffic (three kids and a dog!) WebIt was natural that he should seek an education in that city and from that institution, for both were allied to him by ties of no ordinary significance. Just found out distributors only sale in gallon sizeso its not going to be an option for metoo expensive to pay for gallons in seal and finish just to test it. My cabinets are custom sizes and I was going to go with Barker cabinets (had my order all ready to send), but someone here on houzz recommended I check out this local guy first, and I am so glad I did! My plan was boba natural seal plus 3 coats HD extra matte, but I didnt know about a next final step, please provide detail/product for final sealant step. Blue tape is where some contractors messed things up. Would love to see pics of the InteseSeal, as we are considering the same. Im struggling with the same issue thanks! Thank you for your input. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? Bona NordicSeal to Create a Whitewashed Hardwood Floor If you want a bit of "yellow depth" to the floor, then work with an oil modified. They look closer to the raw wood tone. I have seen plenty of samples of his work. Any reputable stone dealer and fabricator should be able to tell you which are grainy Quartzites and which are Crystalline. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? Thanks. My flooring guy said (and backed it up with a sample) that a water-based sealant with *no tint* (I think Bona ClassicSeal?) As for the cost of install$5/sf with FULL SPREAD glue + stain + sanding + finish (materials extra) is on the low side. I do have a lot of experience with these stones because I own a Granite, Quartz and Quartzite company. When I put the natural stain on my floor it looks gray. There are some finishes that are a 'high-gloss satin' but I don't know where Bona Traffic HD satin sits on the glossy or not gloss level. That makes SOOOO much sense. I personally feel a reputable stone supplier and fabricator will educate you in mineral composition, stone formation, and inform you how and where the stones are quarried. The white background wasnt a true white but it wasnt bad and the marbling was pretty. If you read the question carefully, you would understand I answered that the last coat of finish was applied Saturday. If you think of the paint color of your cabinets.pass it on please. If you you know you are doing something we offer on floor samples (3x3) in many combinations and finishes. Bona It seems much darker than the close up picture with the paper removed Just wondering which is closer to what you see in person? The raw wood that was laid (almost the whole house) looks beautiful. :), Absolutely gorgeous. Compare that to the 2 MINUTES you have with Bona! The correct answer should be "nothing at all". Bona Traffic (original) is two steps up from Mega. Do you know if the Milesi you ordered includes sealer to stop tannin bleed and a UV filter? We ordered select boards but there were a lot of character boards in the delivery. Can you add some white to the Renner System? These are the guys who put down 3 coats in one day and then p!ss off. P.S. Bona Sealers on my White Oak Bona NaturalSeal And like all things "time is money". A new color true black is introduced by Duraseal. I did a lot of research before deciding on what product to use and how many top coats to use. You can get a natural matte finish in medium- light tones with the colors mist, natural, white 5%, white, and cotton white. I agree that Bona Natural or Bona Classic will likely be what we choose. Another problem was that the Bona guy I called was not familiar with Loba products, and I am considering both. I got a quartz remnant for the tub area (a kinda white) in my hideaway bathroom and Ocean Jasper Quartz for the master ADA bathroom.